discretionary retail housing and technology spending. if they cannot hold their gait, then no stocks can right now. other than higher yielding names like coca-cola, verizon, at&t. those three indicators that i just gave you tells that the bad news is baked in, or if it isn't, they will allow us to speculate that the stock market itself with the daily nose dives has washington worried. they will get us through this, and we'll get through this, even as we have to admit that odds for going over the cliff have increased greatly because the sniping has begun. we as a country were so close, almost there. the jobs spigot about to be turned on. numerous domestic industries were turning to the positive, many for the first time in years. our stock market was taking on all the attributes of the bulls of yore. all of that is out the window, because in six weeks, the financial world as we know it will be torn asunder, and this has nothing to with how well companies do or how cheap stocks are historically, it's all about the pride of our elected leaders. what can i say? we deserve better. jack in ohio. jack